by | Feb 26, 2018 | Christianity Today | 12 comments

When two major ministers in Britain shamed American believers who support Trump,  I felt  I needed to respond for two very big reasons.    The first is to lovingly dismiss their arguments and the second is to bolster the convictions of Christians who do support our president.

Let’s begin with what they said.  The Archbishop of Canterbury says he doesn’t understand why so many Christians in the US support President Donald Trump.

Justin Welby told ITV’s Peston on Sunday programme that he “really genuinely” can’t comprehend why Christian fundamentalists have provided such a strong base for Trump.

Paul Bayes, the bishop of Liverpool, said that some American religious leaders were colluding with a divisive system which “marginalises the poor”, contradicting the teachings of the Bible.

Bayes told the Guardian: “Some of the things that have been said by religious leaders seem to collude with a system that marginalises the poor, a system which builds walls instead of bridges, a system which says people on the margins of society should be excluded, a system which says we’re not welcoming people any more into our country.

“Whenever people say those kinds of things, they need to be able to justify that they’re saying those things as Christians, and I do not believe it’s justifiable.”

There’s a lot here and I will try to answer each as best I can.

The first is to the Archbishop:  You don’t understand, and I am glad you admit it.  I assume you also did not understand Barack Obama.  He wanted marriage laws that violated the Word of God.  He vehemently supported late term abortion.  He was more hostile to Scripture by far than any previous president.

Obama’s policies persecuted churches.  Under Obama, the church was gagged and intimidated.  Many regulations were put in place that targeted Christian businesses. Our children could be suspended from school for wearing clothing with Christian messages.  His unbridled spending took us to a 20 trillion-dollar debt.  His foreign policy moved the world into perilous chaos.  Why didn’t you question the Christians who supported him?

Why did we provide a wide base for Trump?  Because the only alternative was Hillary Clinton.  She vowed to intensify the policies of Obama.  She referred to herself as Obama’s third term.

To vote for her meant the church would suffer more.  He, on the other hand, ran on a promise to get the government off the back of the Body of Christ.  He has indeed kept his promise.

Maybe you don’t understand our election system. We didn’t have 12 choices we had only two.  What would you have had us do?  Abstain?  That is the same as a vote for Hillary. We do not regret supporting Donald Trump because the alternative is too terrible to imagine.

To Bishop Paul Bayes I simply ask…why did you put your statements out to a rag that is left wing and atheistic?  The Guardian?  Are you serious?  But I digress.  Let us answer your charges.

We are not colluding with a system that marginalizes the poor.  That system is the one that Democrats put in place.  Since there is an ocean between you and Detroit I will be gentle.

After 50 years and trillions of dollars, the inner cities under liberal domination look like they have been bombed.  The dole they receive has destroyed their incentive to work. The cradle to grave nanny state has been a breathtaking failure.

We Christians who back Trump believe that a strong economy with policies that reward personal responsibility gives the poor something urgent: The dignity of a pay check.  That is why unemployment among blacks is currently the lowest in decades.

On immigration you are also mistaken.  We have been the most welcoming nation in the world—far more than Britain.  That is how we ended up with 18 million illegal immigrants.  We spend 84 billion dollars a year on them.

And yes, they do bring in drugs and in fact some of them have murdered Americans.  People love to say that Trump called all illegal immigrants rapists and murderers. He did not.  He did say some of them are.

Did you know that 25% of the women who come in here illegally are raped by fellow illegals?  Do you really believe that none of them are bringing in drugs?  Are you really confused about why a nation with our crisis would want to secure their border?

Mexico is not trying to help us.  Corruption and hypocrisy have forced our hand.  They encourage their people to come here illegally.  They have zero control over the drug trade.  They resist taking back felons we deport.  What do you do with a nation that seems to be an ally that will not help you?

For an answer Bishop, look to Winston Churchill.  He begged France not to let their battleships fall into the hands of the Nazis.  When they wouldn’t on July 3, 1940 at the Battle of Mers-el-Kébir,  he destroyed French battleships to protect England.

We are building a wall for two reasons:  They work, and Mexico refuses to help us.  You also believe walls work.  That’s why you have one around Buckingham Palace.

Of course we want to welcome those who truly want to contribute to our nation.  What we want is a sane policy not the corrupt system that Democrats have in place that is simply a way to recruit new voters for their party.

Is it Christian for us to protect our borders?  Why don’t you ask Jesus Christ?  “But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.” -Matthew 24:43


  1. Sheila

    Amen Mario! You have such a way with words and are truly blessed with Holy Spirit Wisdom❣️

  2. Catherine Strazzeri

    I’m so grateful for you and the way you stand up to whoever slams our President by pointing to Gods Word and so eloquently educating them with facts they can’t refute.
    I pray the attack on your body goes back to the pit and you be released from pain.
    Have you had your Piraformis muscle checked or had an MRI done on your hip? It’s a muscle hidden deep inside by the hip bone and sciatica nerve and is so terribly painful you can barely move. I’ve been praying for a miracle touch from God upon you in Jesus name. God Bless you.

  3. Carolina

    My question for the liberal minded British hierarchy is – what business is it of yours? Mario greatly answered these 2 Bishops, my question is…since when is it the concerns of other nations how American’s answer their own national problems?!
    If these 2 fellows actually understood the biblical record left to us Christians they would also with clear eyed knowledge observe AP-Paul’s Romans 13: instructions as well as referring back to The Lord God’s written word in Old Testament where it clearly says that God ordains the boundaries of every human being of where they shall live, die and ‘vote’ and grow in the knowledge of Him. Inclusively, The Lord God HATES the moving of boundary markers and those who do that, the practice of murder of children for sacrifice to idols, and divorce to name a few. Hence in our nation we need a “boundary” wall to stop illegal intruders (law breakers) who might be prone to commit nefarious acts, we need new laws to protect innocent babies from infanticide, as well as correcting the unabated ridiculousness of homosexual marriage and on going heterosexual even more divorce in America.

  4. Gloria

    These men are only “religious” leaders who don’t really have the truth of Jesus, they remind me of the “blind” Pharisees who Jesus called out for their unbelief in him.. keep revealing God’s truth regarding the demonic influences in this dark world! Praying God’s miraculous healing in your body, God bless you!

  5. David Larson

    Dear Mario, you mentioned two major ministers, but since when is the Anglican Church a Christian church? And what do these two bishops know about Christianity? It’s been along time since Christianity was a part of English or British life and culture, unfortunately. The archbishop is currently trying to subvert the British vote for Brexit. Is that the biggest problem for the Anglican church? Mario, Read the lyrics to the Beatles tune “fool on the hill” and you will know who you’re writing about when you write about these two bishops. These bishops are the persona of all dressed up and nowhere to go. Good job, and I enjoy your writing with the spirit behind it, but I personally wouldn’t waste my time on a reply to these “fools on the hill.”

    • mariomurilloministries

      David, now that you mention it they actually sound like they are out the Beatle song Eleanor Rigby.

      • marbo41

        Oh, yes!

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  7. Iliana

    To go even further than these two bishops or whatever they call themselves, have they wonder why and how was the United States founded? Running from the corrupt system that England and the Religious system that they had in place! If they don’t pay the bills of this nation they need to not even think of how we are doing! They can surely start by not coveting and loving the neighbors! Pluck first the stye out of your own eye before you try to pluck it out of us. Thank God we have a large body of water between us!

  8. free73735

    Reblogged this on free73735 and commented:
    This type of thinking is why Americans broke free of England and became a nation.

  9. marbo41

    Excellent commentary! I appreciate a man of God who has the courage to speak out rather than bury his head in the sand.



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